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  • #11714
    Born2BMild
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    I remember some time, roundabout the middle 80s, that some guy had an opinion that the front suspension though the forks was dangerous when a bike dipped when applying the front brake. His argument was that it put a strain on the leading edge of the dampers which had an adverse effect on steering and manouvrability.

    He came up with some Heath Robinson affair of linkages that isolated the braking affect from the effect of front suspension loading or so he said. It never caught on as I never heard anything more of him since.

    Just recently though, I’ve seen forkless bikes dislayed on the web, Yamaha GTS-1000, Bimota Tesi and the Elf GP, and was wondering what was thought of them.

    #46787
    HippoDrones
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    If you put a mechanical link to turn the front wheel, feeling will be lost and could mean cornering would be hit and miss. The dive of a bike on a corner when breaking actually increases the stearing rake so will make steering sharper and more precise (imo). Bikes with forks are designed with to dive so I cant see any adverse effect.

    I’ve not ridden a bike without conventional forks unless you count a c90! lol. So I can’t comment on what they are like to ride. Its just technology for technologies sake and adds cost and weight to the bike.

    #46788
    Radar
    Moderator

    BMW make bikes with a paralever front suspension system, that doesn’t use a concentional front fork either

    #46789
    sid
    Participant

    quote:


    Originally posted by Pete247

    If you put a mechanical link to turn the front wheel, feeling will be lost and could mean cornering would be hit and miss. The dive of a bike on a corner when breaking actually increases the stearing rake so will make steering sharper and more precise (imo). Bikes with forks are designed with to dive so I cant see any adverse effect.

    I’ve not ridden a bike without conventional forks unless you count a c90! lol. So I can’t comment on what they are like to ride. Its just technology for technologies sake and adds cost and weight to the bike.


    and most of the coppers in london that use them hate the lack of feeling
    or so the one that nicked me last week said lol

    #46790
    Gix
    Participant

    Odd! Just dont look righ without forks, wonder if it feels as odd as it looks….

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    #46791
    Radar
    Moderator

    https://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/products/sport/r1200s/r1200s_data.html

    It’s called Telelever sorry

    Wot did he nick you for Sid?

    #46792
    sid
    Participant

    using my fone at 1mph in a traffic jam

    #46793
    Radar
    Moderator

    quote:


    Originally posted by sid

    using my fone at 1mph in a traffic jam


    Good piece of policework, I feel I can sleep easier in my bed now! Good grief, have they not got anything better to do?

    Back on thread, I have not ridden any of the BMW’s with this, wonder how they ride. Sid you reckon the coppers don’t like them. My mate with a R11ooS loves it.

    #46794
    sid
    Participant

    just shows how crap the R1100s is then lol

    #46795
    Radar
    Moderator

    bimota-tesi-04-bikepics-473788.jpg

    Bimota have had a go too…

    #46796
    Gix
    Participant
    #46797
    Big_Katz
    Participant

    that bike looks deformed in gix’s post yak
    it reminds me of a kids toy
    (remember transformer’s robots in disguise)
    lol

    [}:)]

    #46798
    Gix
    Participant

    Bikes are kids toys…….big kids toys![:o)]

    #46799
    Big_Katz
    Participant

    thats not a bike it’s a transformer lol

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