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- February 1, 2009 at 9:37 pm #13572RadarModerator
If you care for someone make them wear an wairbag jacket.
Not only do all jackets have airbags but they have high visability trim/markings to make the rider more obvious to other road users.
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MotoAir have made these jackets for many Police Forces across the World. Motoair supplied the Police forces in USA, Taiwan, Japan and Spain
February 6, 2009 at 8:02 pm #57537imperialdataKeymasterImpressive idea. You can bet your mates will inflate your jacket down the pub for a laugh though.
Still, if it works it could be a great thing. Not really like the car airbags though as they could break your ribs if they were that close!
Maybe one day we’ll see them in lampposts or car bonnets…..
February 6, 2009 at 11:10 pm #57538RadarModeratorJaguar Cars already fir what they call an ‘Active Safety’ car bonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8as10paBy0
Jaguar first to offer Pyrotechnic Deployable Bonnet in the UK, on the all-new XK sports car
Pyrotechnic Deployable Bonnet is a world first for Jaguar
Bonnet is raised in around 30 milliseconds using forces up to 50 times the force of gravity
Operates in less time than it takes to blink
Advanced sensing system can distinguish between different impacts
Over 120 man years dedicated to system development
Jaguar has revealed the world’s first Pyrotechnic Pedestrian Deployable Bonnet System (PDBS) a state-of-the-art advanced safety feature, at the Frankfurt Auto Show. In an era of safety conscious motoring, Jaguar has managed to combine beautiful, fast sports car design with the latest pedestrian impact technology to create a world first with the all-new XK which goes on sale in the UK in early 2006.Within the ‘blink of an eye’
In the unfortunate event of a pedestrian impact, the deployable bonnet on the new XK automatically ‘pops’ up a few inches, to create a cushioning effect between the engine and the bonnet. This helps to isolate the pedestrian from hard points in the engine compartment – and takes place in less than a tenth of the time it takes to blink an eye.
Jaguar is one of the first manufacturers to meet Phase One of new European safety legislation using an active deployable bonnet system. The new standards are designed to help mitigate the severity of injuries to pedestrians in the event of a collision with a car.
Legislation in the European market requires manufacturers to commit to a two-phase introduction of a range of active and passive safety improvements on all new cars to improve the protection of pedestrians in case of accident.
“The Jaguar design team embraced the idea of using a deployable bonnet when it was first considered during early concept discussions on the new XK. This clever feature saves between 50 and 65mm in height off the bonnet surface and a similar amount off the roofline, allowing the design team to maintain a very low, sleek Jaguar sports car profile on the new XK,” said Ian Callum, Jaguar Cars Design Director.
The Jaguar Pyrotechnic Pedestrian Deployable Bonnet provides an innovative solution to these legislative requirements whilst ensuring that the sleek lines that customers expect from Jaguar sports cars can be retained. The active system fitted to the all-new XK is complemented by a passive bumper system, the design of which helps to mitigate leg injury through the use of crushable foam and plastic covering. An advanced sensing system is mounted in the front bumper to help discriminate between a pedestrian collision and any other possible front-end collisions. The speed of the sensing time in the system is around one tenth of the time it takes to blink an eye.
Phil Hodgkinson Jaguar Programmes Director said: “I take technology development at our product development centres very seriously and I am proud to be working with Jaguar engineers who can deliver this kind of safety system, which we believe to be a world-first. The fact that it also allows us to stay true to Ian Callum’s core Jaguar design values is equally satisfying.”
The complex system has been extensively researched across wide-ranging scenarios, using 120 man-years and thousands of computer simulations, as well as tested in practice at Jaguar’s Engineering Centre at Whitley in Coventry, England. While all pedestrian impact research has been carried out using virtual tools, analysis of previous ‘real world’ incidents has played an important part in the development process.
One of the impressive points about the new XK’s pyrotechnic deployable bonnet system is that it can lift the bonnet (which weighs 18kg) in around 30 milliseconds, which requires an acceleration rate of about 50 times the force of gravity (50g).
Physical research carried out by the Jaguar development team has included investigation of various impacts including inanimate objects such as motorway cones. This is a vital part of the process to allow the system to differentiate a person from other impacts that can be experienced in day-to-day driving.
The Jaguar pyrotechnic pedestrian deployable bonnet system normally operates at vehicle speeds where it provides the most benefit and is automatically disabled outside of this speed range. The system is completely separate from any other crash protection system on the vehicle, including airbags.
“The Pyrotechnic Pedestrian Deployable Bonnet in the all-new XK is a leading safety technology that goes hand in hand with an advanced Jaguar sports car, sitting alongside a beautifully crafted luxury interior, aluminium technology and scintillating, dynamic performance,” said Russ Varney, Chief Program Engineer for the XK series.
Please note that timings are quoted in milliseconds and are approximate for illustration purposes only.
Meanwhile in London we are now getting padded lamposts too…although these admitedly are aimed more at pedestrians…
Brick Lane made Britain’s first ‘Safe Text’ street with padded lampposts to prevent mobile phone injuriesLast updated at 17:00 04 March 2008
Comments (13) Add to My Stories Britain’s first ‘Safe Text’ street has been created complete with padded lampposts to protect millions of mobile phone users from getting hurt in street accidents while walking and texting.
Around one in ten careless Brits has suffered a “walk ‘n text” street injury in the past year through collisions with lampposts, bins and other pedestrians.
The 6.6million accidents have caused injuries ranging from mild knocks and embarrassing cuts and bruises through to broken noses, cheekbones and even a fractured skull.Almost two thirds – 62 per cent – of Brits concentrate so hard while texting that they lose their peripheral vision, researchers found.
Given the apparent dangers of “unprotected text”, over a quarter of Brits – 27 per cent – are in favour of creating a ‘mobile motorway’ on Britain’s pavements.
Texters could follow a brightly coloured line, which which would act like a cycle lane, steering them away from obstacles.
And 44 per cent of those surveyed wanted pads placed on lampposts to protect them while texting. The study found that busy city streets were the worst for “walk ‘n text” accidents.
The research showed that Brick Lane in East London was the top spot for texting injuries.
Now Brick Lane has been made the country’s first ?Safe Text? street, with brightly coloured padding, similar to that used on rugby posts, placed on lamp posts to test if it helps protect dozy mobile users.
If the trial is successful, the idea could be rolled out to other London blackspots, including Charing Cross Road, Old Bond Street, Oxford Street and Church Street, Stoke Newington.
Across London, it is claimed there were more than 68,000 such accidents last year, with victims’ injuries ranging from minor bruises to fractured skulls.
The blame was placed on the large amount of street furniture such as lamp posts and bins and a growing number of pedestrians attracted by the area’s curry houses and bars.
The survey, by text information company 118.com, revealed 44 per cent of mobile users backed the idea of the padding to save themselves from injury and mild embarrassment. Other suggestions included ?mobile motorways?, like cycle lanes, giving people a brightly coloured line to follow to stay out of danger.
William Ostrom of 118.com said: ?The study found Brick Lane was the worst for a combination of reasons. It has a very high concentration of lamp posts, signs and bins in a small area. Added to the pedestrian footfall and the number of drinking establishments, it’s a hot spot for accidents.?
Britain’s 48 million mobile users together send 4.7 million texts an hour.
Campaign groups blamed growing levels of street ?clutter?, such as lamp posts, bins and recycling points. Tony Armstrong, chief executive of Living Streets, said: ?Britain’s streets are becoming increasingly like obstacle courses. We were surprised by the scale of accidents but know from our members that cluttered streets continue to cause daily danger.?Sources
https://www.birmingham101.com/101motors_jag_bonnet.htmFebruary 13, 2009 at 7:53 am #57539TT07ParticipantAir bag jacket ‘could save lives’
Dozens of motorcyclists’ lives could be saved every year if air bag jackets were made compulsory, accident and emergency doctors have said.
The jackets are the equivalent of car air bags and inflate if the rider is thrown off during a crash.
In one version, the jacket is attached to the bike by a lead which detaches when the rider has come off suddenly.
The Department of Transport said it had no plans for a new law but said it welcomed anything to improve safety.
Vital organs
Although motorcyclists make up just 1% of road users, they account for 20% of fatalities.
Figures for 2007 show that 561 bikers died on the roads.
Andy Parfitt, an A&E doctor at St Thomas’ Hospital in London, said: “There is a shocking number of deaths of motorcyclists on the roads. I think dozens of lives could be saved if these jackets were made compulsory.
Dr Parfitt, a keen biker, said: “There’s no question that what the jackets do afford is, they protect a motorcyclists’ vital organs, neck and spine over and above the level that a normal jacket would do.
“A majority of deaths in motorcycle accidents are due to injuries to these vital organs that should be protected by these jackets.”
One rider whose experience underlines the kind of injuries that motorcyclists can receive in accidents is 32-year-old Dineth Wijayarathna.
He was involved in a crash two years ago that left him seriously injured.
He said: “I was doing about 130mph (210km/h), the rear wheel suspension failed on my motorcycle and I came off, broke my pelvis in two places, broke my back and broke a few ribs.”
He needed two major operations, couldn’t walk for six months and still feels the after-effects two years on.
“I’ve got a plate in the front of my pelvis with six bolts in it. I’ve got two 9cm (3.5in) bolts going through my pelvis into my spine,” he said.
“It was awful. Not being able to walk, not being able to do normal bodily functions for such a long period of time wasn’t the best fun.”
Dineth Wijayarathna broke his back and pelvis after a crash
There are different types of air bag jackets on sale in the UK, which cost up to twice as much as standard jackets.
One version, sold by Point Two, is attached to bikes by a lead and, if the wearer falls off, that triggers a small gas canister that inflates the jacket in less than one fifth of a second.
The spine is then held tight and the air bag protects the area between the neck and pelvis.
Newsbeat gave one of the jackets to Rob Hunt, a stuntman for 12 years.
He said afterwards: “It just stops you from going anywhere. It’s tight. It’s protecting all around my ribs.”
“It felt as though I was picked up off the floor and I was on the air bag. It was just like gliding on air.
“It stopped me from rolling as well. It stops the bounce. I think it’s the bounce when you’re crashing at speed that hurts you.”
Link to BBC page and related video
https://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_7886000/7886427.stm?lss
February 13, 2009 at 12:44 pm #57540RadarModeratorIt looks a good idea, but not keen on compulsion. They need to find a way of preventing going off when your mates are messing about in the cafe too.
February 13, 2009 at 4:03 pm #57541ChampsParticipantI like the idea, but I bet they aren’t cheap. I accept that you can’t put a price on safety but still you need to weigh the odds.
Helmets are law, but at the same time you can pick up a decent one for £80. Can’t see an airbag jacket being that cheap.
February 13, 2009 at 5:54 pm #57542TT07ParticipantI also think its a good idea, but, if they are activated soley by the force exerted when pulling away from a tether on the bike surely just forgetting your tethered when you get off a bike will accidently activate it. Has the cost of a reset back to its ‘ready state’ been published?
February 13, 2009 at 6:29 pm #57543ChampsParticipantLMAO! I now have this image of a bassets pole meet with airjackets going off.
Macdonalds… full of bikers with deflated air bags hanging out their jackets.
HAHA!
Anyways, I have found a few jackets on sale, average price is US$395 which is roughly about £280.
February 19, 2009 at 11:38 pm #57544RadarModeratorThe price isn’t bad, but they need to find a more foolproof way of activating them
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