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- March 17, 2006 at 12:24 pm #11714Born2BMildParticipant
I remember some time, roundabout the middle 80s, that some guy had an opinion that the front suspension though the forks was dangerous when a bike dipped when applying the front brake. His argument was that it put a strain on the leading edge of the dampers which had an adverse effect on steering and manouvrability.
He came up with some Heath Robinson affair of linkages that isolated the braking affect from the effect of front suspension loading or so he said. It never caught on as I never heard anything more of him since.
Just recently though, I’ve seen forkless bikes dislayed on the web, Yamaha GTS-1000, Bimota Tesi and the Elf GP, and was wondering what was thought of them.
March 17, 2006 at 1:40 pm #46787HippoDronesParticipantIf you put a mechanical link to turn the front wheel, feeling will be lost and could mean cornering would be hit and miss. The dive of a bike on a corner when breaking actually increases the stearing rake so will make steering sharper and more precise (imo). Bikes with forks are designed with to dive so I cant see any adverse effect.
I’ve not ridden a bike without conventional forks unless you count a c90! lol. So I can’t comment on what they are like to ride. Its just technology for technologies sake and adds cost and weight to the bike.
March 17, 2006 at 5:21 pm #46788RadarModeratorBMW make bikes with a paralever front suspension system, that doesn’t use a concentional front fork either
March 17, 2006 at 5:24 pm #46789sidParticipantquote:
Originally posted by Pete247If you put a mechanical link to turn the front wheel, feeling will be lost and could mean cornering would be hit and miss. The dive of a bike on a corner when breaking actually increases the stearing rake so will make steering sharper and more precise (imo). Bikes with forks are designed with to dive so I cant see any adverse effect.
I’ve not ridden a bike without conventional forks unless you count a c90! lol. So I can’t comment on what they are like to ride. Its just technology for technologies sake and adds cost and weight to the bike.
and most of the coppers in london that use them hate the lack of feeling
or so the one that nicked me last week said lolMarch 17, 2006 at 5:26 pm #46790GixParticipantOdd! Just dont look righ without forks, wonder if it feels as odd as it looks….
March 17, 2006 at 5:27 pm #46791RadarModeratorhttps://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/products/sport/r1200s/r1200s_data.html
It’s called Telelever sorry
Wot did he nick you for Sid?
March 17, 2006 at 5:28 pm #46792sidParticipantusing my fone at 1mph in a traffic jam
March 17, 2006 at 5:33 pm #46793RadarModeratorquote:
Originally posted by sidusing my fone at 1mph in a traffic jam
Good piece of policework, I feel I can sleep easier in my bed now! Good grief, have they not got anything better to do?
Back on thread, I have not ridden any of the BMW’s with this, wonder how they ride. Sid you reckon the coppers don’t like them. My mate with a R11ooS loves it.
March 17, 2006 at 5:34 pm #46794sidParticipantjust shows how crap the R1100s is then lol
March 17, 2006 at 5:38 pm #46795RadarModeratorBimota have had a go too…
March 17, 2006 at 5:41 pm #46796GixParticipantMarch 17, 2006 at 6:00 pm #46797Big_KatzParticipantthat bike looks deformed in gix’s post yak
it reminds me of a kids toy
(remember transformer’s robots in disguise)
lol[}]
March 17, 2006 at 6:29 pm #46798GixParticipantBikes are kids toys…….big kids toys![:o)]
March 17, 2006 at 8:16 pm #46799Big_KatzParticipantthats not a bike it’s a transformer lol
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