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  • #10217
    Radar
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    750cc – All you need?

    750cc has been put forward by Bike magazine as the ideal size for a road bike engine. I have mulled over this for a bit and I reckon that they might be onto something.
    If we were take the example of the current Suzuki GSXR750 v the GSXR1000, and pit one against the other. The reports I have read on both seems to suggest the following
    1. Virtually nothing in it on lap time on a track.
    2. Only slight edge to the GSXR1000 on top end.
    3. The 750 seems to be quicker to 80 – 100 mph as the power is easier to get down off the line.
    4. The 750 is cheaper to buy, insure, fuel, service and keep in tyres.
    See what I mean?

    R7 here I come! Can’t bring myself to buy a Suzy sorry!!



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    #28324
    Gix
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    the R7 has more power than the gixer 1000, you dont need it do ya?

    would love the gixer1000 but cant justify it really….750 should do me for now.

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    #28325
    Lex
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    should be aircooled and not hidden behind layers of poxy fibreglass

    Fairings are for puffs

    #28326
    Scouser
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    Good point, its rare when you use the full cubes, although I know many riders on this forum who push the top performance of 180+, on track days of course.

    I personally like big bikes, what the biggest 750 you can get?

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    #28327
    GSX Rat
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    quote:


    Originally posted by Lex

    should be aircooled and not hidden behind layers of poxy fibreglass

    Fairings are for puffs


    Yup – pretty much, although dont forget to allow oil/air cooled….

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    #28328
    Gix
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    quote:


    Originally posted by Lex

    should be aircooled and not hidden behind layers of poxy fibreglass

    Fairings are for puffs


    Fairings can be useful for weather protection, you cant tuck in behind your screen at high speeds if you aint got one…..
    Bikes without fairings are for riders who prefer the more sedate rides…[;)]

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    #28329
    GSF K1
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    Not having the fairing is a pain if your running on the motorways for any length of time.

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    #28330
    GSX Rat
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    gives you the ideal oppertunity to stop for a drink every hundred miles though, and i find that the wind blast helps keep the weight off my wrists which i find a more comfortable ride…

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    #28331
    GSXR1000
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    1000cc every time.
    I typed out a full reply and at the very end it said ‘sevice not available’.

    Arrrggghhh!!!

    (GSXR now has full Yoshimura exhaust and re-map and has 167 bhp at the rear wheel. It goes like stink.)

    #28332
    MadSrad
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    I’ll go with the first post…… 1000’cc not usable on a road. Mates R1 sticks out 148 bhp and he goes nowhere from the gixer ! By the time the power makes itself noticeable, theres a corner approaching. Maybe a little difference on a motorway, but you can tuck in the draft ? We never use motorways anyway unless forced to. lol

    “Its not about the horsepower, its about the balls!!”

    #28333
    GSXR1000
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    Then again, a Kawasaki ZX-6R with it’s 636cc stacks up well on the road with the GSXR750. Cheaper to insure, better comfort, 170 mph, almost as quick to 100, etc etc etc.

    The beauty of the 1000 Gixxer is that you do not get tired wringing it’s neck every time you want to go fast as it is so much more grunty. The 750 gets tedious after a while as it is gutless below 6000 rpm.

    The 2005 1000cc just clears off at any revs.

    #28334
    MadSrad
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    Mines gutless below 8000 rpm, but its not below there very often. I like the feeling of wringing its neck and knowing i’m able to use it and not have loads of power stacked up at the far end that I wont be able to reach that often/ever ? The road conditions dont alow for it. Seems like a waste of ponies and insurance to me.

    “Its not about the horsepower, its about the balls!!”

    #28335
    Radar
    Moderator

    So Gix, now you have made the jump to 1,000 cc, do you think the bike is too fast for the road, or does the power bring assurance and enhanced capability and safety?

    #28336
    Gix
    Participant

    Awww man I cant get enough of it [:o)]. The 600 was hard work, it was heavy, I used to think it handled well but compared to 1000 it was not very good in that department either, but then it was an old bike. Snapping open the throttle too quick produces some lovely rear slides (I used to drop down a gear and rag the 600 for overtakes and dont need to on the 1000 but still ‘forget’ sometimes). The power delivery is smoother, quicker, obviously it has better engine braking, drop the throttle and snap open again and the front end will come up (woohoo), its alround a much better bike and has me jibbering on every ride[:p][:D]

    #28337
    max
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    me being 6’4 tall i had to buy a bigger bike, the zx12 suits me fine,used to have a z750 but i dwarfed it,on the bends was fun but the top end was shit.the z750 took time to do 140mph ,on the zx12 60-160 takes a few seconds[:D].
    But the zx12 is poor on the bends,
    The bigger the better[:D]int that right girls[:D]

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