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Now tell them what you really think!
Joking aside, it does make my blood boil, I do write and complain even though it is to no avail. MAG do a good job campaigning against discrimination but unfortunately we are and always will be the minority. If bikers do some good charity work you will get a column with a small headline. If bikers do wrong, you can guarantee we get the headlines and more.
Sorry I have edited your post slightly (it only took 4 hours) but we do get really young readers, but it’s nice to get it off your chest now and then.Enjoy reading the ACPO, that will infuriate you even more [
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XVWell Sharria, you should be in the clear now if you have not heard from the “Tax Man”. They have exceeded their 15-day rule (providing you were driving/riding your own vehicle). Please let us know the outcome. Thanx
XV
I posted this on the 30th of March in the Cafe99 section…
We can’t allow this to happen! This would be the first step on the ladder and other police authorities would be watching with very close eyes. Where does it all stop? Who do they think they are? Why just bikers? They announce figures stating the amount of speeders and accidents on the roads but yet we are merely a small percentage of these figures. A mere percentage which will be escalated and used later in more statistics to justify their cause.
Please, I don’t want to drone on but if you see any articles regarding this or similar items please let me know.
Police in move to seize bikers’ machines
confiscating motorcycles could be very effective
Law-breaking motorcyclists could have their machines confiscated as police officers gear up for the biggest season of road safety work yet seen in North Yorkshire.
Chief Constable Della Cannings warned that bikers who break the speed limit and illegally customise their vehicles they face an unprecedented campaign of highway law enforcement this summer.
She said officers would consider taking machines away from persistent nuisance bikers, and that three new mobile video cameras would make roadside speed checks faster, safer and more efficient.
Police chiefs are acting after 28 motorcyclists died on North Yorkshire roads last year, the highest number recorded.
North Yorkshire Police Authority yesterday released £10,000 to pay for video recorders which, working with laser speed guns, could be on the streets within weeks.
Authority member David Lloyd-Williams said residents in the popular biking area of Helmsley and Bilsdale were already reporting rising numbers of weekend bikers.
He said: “Confiscating motorcycles could be very effective because people want to show off on bikes.”
Assistant Chief Constable David Collins said: “The whole issue of safer roads is part of our priority to reduce serious injury and fatal road traffic accidents.
“That is going to be achieved this year through a combination of enforcement and education.
“This kit (video recorders) is the best on the market and what our professionals prefer to use. I think it will have a big impact.”
After the meeting, Debbie Molyneux, of York Motorcycle Action Group, said speed cameras had a role, but they could be seen as revenue generators rather than a safety tool.
Motorcyclists were often perceived to be riding fast because of their brightly-coloured machines and high engine note, when they were riding within the law and their ability.
Police authority member Mike Doyle, an experienced motorcyclist, said bikers should not be demonised and that many bikers would benefit from daily riding, rather than just weekend trips.
He said: “Life’s not so easy for those who use their bikes for daily transport rather than hurtling up the A65 for a spin on a Sunday.”It just goes to show….8%… I wonder if they call that justifying their funds. Now if the headlines were to read “92%” maybe it could be looked upon on with a different light
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Stuart XV16
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HELP KEEP THIS FORUM ALIVE! PLEASE DONATE.As promised…
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Stuart XV16
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HELP KEEP THIS FORUM ALIVE! PLEASE DONATE.It certainly seems that way.
The campaign was obviously set up to target bikers, and to only have an 8% result must be embarrassing. With results like this it won’t make the headlines for much longer.
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Stuart XV16
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HELP KEEP THIS FORUM ALIVE! PLEASE DONATE.Sharria. This is the info listed for the area you were flashed. I cant find any other Scameras for that area.
Nearest Town/village: Lymm / Warrington
Road Name: M6
Direction of Camera: Northbound
Speed Enforcement: 40 mph
Further Details: Located on overhead gantries between Junctions 20 and 22. This is the bridge section where roadwork’s are currently taking place. SPECS cameras are EASY to spot as they have a YELLOW fabric patch approx. 30 cms square displayed behind each camera mounted on the overhead gantries. N.B. The SPECS cameras are not mounted on any other type of support other than the permanent overhead matrix board gantries on this stretch of the M6. Update: As other gantry-mounted SPECS systems in Cheshire, the fabric patches are faded and getting much harder to see, especially at night. (Update received 29 June 2003).
Confirmed: 5 times
Ref. #: NWCH037If it was this system you have seen, you need not worry if you were on the bike. This system does not use a flash, however they can reflect the sun or other lights and give the appearance of a flash.
We will all keep our fingers crossed…
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Stuart.Best Regards
Stuart XV16
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HELP KEEP THIS FORUM ALIVE! PLEASE DONATE.Sharria, have a look at my post titled “New Speed Limit” further down the page. These are Specs cameras, are these the ones you are describing?
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Sorry to hear the bad news. I have posted an article “Fighting an NIP” at the top of this section, you could find it useful.
Most Gatso Scameras would be set to trigger around the 46 mark, this is allowing the 10% + 2 which is recommended by the association of chief police officers. This however is not the law, unfortunately the law says 40mph. Before worrying about it, wait the time limit to see if you receive an NIP. It could have been out of film or up to its capacity if it is a digital Scamera.
It would be very unusual for a Scamera to be set below these limits although it does happen in some areas. Where were you when you got flashed? The exact location would be appreciated.
If you do receive an NIP you will probably see the recorded speed was above 46mph, if this is the case it may be that your speedo is slightly inaccurate or the Scameras calibration was out.
The next step is to contest it. Ask for the photographs and check the accuracy of the marking distances at the Scamera site, this is crucial. These lines are painted by “Joe Bloggs” who does not really care as long as he gets paid. (That could be a survey for anyone with some free time).
If and when you receive a Notice of Intended Prosecution, we will look at it further and see what other alternate options are available. In the mean time, do not worry…
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Stuart XV16
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