October 1, 2012 at 6:57 am #14766
is it just me or does it look seriously slow for “104” mph? Being followed by another biker at the same speed, was he also prosecuted for 104mph because there is no mention of him in the article…..And why only 70 day ban for his such “shocking” disregard???
I actually know the pc that nabbed him, well, she is a horsey contact, and I cant help thinking that her statement in the article and her whole reason for prosecution is because she has a horse of her own, and not because he was showing disregard. Yeah he didnt slow down enough for the horse really, bit late on the brakes, but he did slow down and no way was he going 104mph before passing the horse, let alone as he did pass the horse, more like around 80 – 85mph (still speeding) before breaking to pass. No mention of following biker either, who looked to be going around the same speed…..
It just makes distrust and disrespect for the law seem even more justified imo.October 1, 2012 at 7:48 pm #64369imperialdataKeymaster
is it just me or does it look seriously slow for “104” mph?
How can you tell that’s slow Gix?October 3, 2012 at 7:20 am #64370
using the pony as a point of referece, altho it still looks fast it doesnt look like he past pony at 104mph, tho admittedly it can be deceiving. I would be more concerned that he didnt see the speed trap in time to slow down enough tho, even with current technology bikes need to be closer than bigger vehicles for the handheld to take reading (it wont unless vehicle is close enough apparently), he should have seen it way before he did. His observation skills seem to be lacking somewhat.October 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm #64371
Was there a video link on there? I could only get a stillOctober 5, 2012 at 5:18 pm #64372
i posted video on my wall radar, didnt realise it wasnt in link, will go copy and pasteOctober 5, 2012 at 5:19 pm #64373
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZBPc8EiyqY[/youtube]October 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm #64374ChampsParticipant
Without being partial
Firstly, the biker did noticably slow down and he did check his mirrors to see where’s his mate is
Secondly, it was 104 for…. A second maybe? Is that accurate?
The judge must of spotted that because isn’t over 100 automatic banOctober 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm #64375
He definately slowed, didn’t look all that quick eitherOctober 8, 2012 at 6:55 am #64376
apparently the bike following was doing 114mph, so why is he not mentioned? Both bikers admitted speeding but I would be very surprised if the readings are accurate. Even those on a horsey site I lurk on said that it didnt look like he was going at the speed indicated, apart from the odd one or 2 that stated they wished bikers would bin it on a bend and do the world a favour (nice people some of them horsey folk), most actually said bikers were the most considerate of road users when it comes to horses.October 10, 2012 at 7:17 pm #64377BigBenParticipant
yup deff wasnt that quick. also ill be honest, i know a lot of lasses that ride and like horses. i personally cant stand them. they are more dangerous than a car or bike as you have absolutely zero control over it on the road. they shouldnt be on the road. and if they are should have compulsory insurance as it is only advisable at this time.
picture this, riding your fave road in summer, roads are clear, youre in a 60 zone and you go round a corner at 60, instantly see a horse, slam the brakes on, lock your wheels up, slide down the road. through a hedge or under a wagon! slightly off point but i think it is valid.October 12, 2012 at 12:40 pm #64378
oooh can of worms Benji.
Like responsible bikers, responsible horse riders have insurance if we have to go on the roads, no horse rider actually wants to go on the roads, its a case of having to.
As for your scenario, you should never ride faster so that your safe stopping distance is more than the distance you can see. Just because its a 60mph limit does not mean it is safe to go round that particular bend at 60 if you cannot see far enough around it to be able to stop safely should the need arise, eg there may be a parked/broken down vehicle, a pedestrian walking a dog, or indeed, a horse.
I have to ride on the road, I have no menage, and no bridle paths right off the yard. There is one bridle path in the area I live, but I have to use the roads to get to it. So I have no where else to ride. The government agency responsible for byways has decommissioned most bridle ways and they are now footpaths only thanks to the ramblers associations and societies pressure, they out number horse riders, and they do more damage. Ignorance is very damaging.October 25, 2012 at 2:24 pm #64379HippoDronesParticipant
gotta agree, most horse owners I know hate having to use the roads as they are full of inconsiderate users that dont give them any room. Most bikers give more room than cars as I think we’d come off worse than if we were in a car if we spooked the horse.October 25, 2012 at 10:28 pm #64380
gotta agree, most horse owners I know hate having to use the roads as they are full of inconsiderate users that dont give them any room. Most bikers give more room than cars as I think we’d come off worse than if we were in a car if we spooked the horse.
I always give horses a wide berth, even so one got spooked as I passed one last week while following my daughter on her mopedNovember 2, 2012 at 12:36 pm #64381BigBenParticipant
Give that one over to car drivers then maybe? A lesson on road riding is not what I require.
You can’t give a wider berth than on the other side of the road, I may have gone slightly off topic in my initial reply but the key points are there. If u go past a horse at 90 it will most likely sh1t itself, but go past one at 15mph and it might do the sane depending on it’s temperament. U can control a car or bike, but u don’t kno what the oss will do no?November 14, 2012 at 8:19 am #64382
no you dont know what the horse will do, just like you cannot predict what a dog will do, or a child, pedestrian etc.
You miss the point I made tho Benji, as regards to your scenario.
And as for not requiring a lesson on road riding, we should all strive everyday to improve. After riding bikes for years, I am always open to improving. The day I think I know everything and think there is no more room for improving, is the day I will give up altogether, that goes for horse riding as well as motorcycling.
You may think you “dont need a lesson in road riding” but maybe you could do with spending some time around horses and take a walk out on the roads with one of your horsey friends, and see just what these animals have to put up with.
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